I am or rather was interested in the following problem: while we cannot hope to measure with infinite precision in the real world, in the mathematical world can I measure a continuous-spectrum self-adjoint operator given a fixed state? That is measure it with infinite precision?
Let be a unital
-algebra, and
a state on it… actually I will use the Gelfand–Birkhoff picture:
Note that has an extension to a
-weakly continuous state
on the bidual,
. The algebra
sits isometrically in the bidual: the bidual as a von Neumann algebra contains the spectral projections of any self-adjoint
. We use the notation
for Borel
.
Let . Define:
.
Suppose for a state that for all
:
.
(the situation where will be moot).
Then we want to consider the entity:
.
If this limit exists then it is a state.
Alas, this limit does not exist in general. There is a commutative counterexample by Nik Weaver on MO, which we will share here.
Let and
given by
and
integration against Lesbesgue measure. Let
and
.
Define
,
and , an element of
.
Consider and let
, with
. It is possible to show that in this case:
.
However, at , we get
. This means that the limit
above does not exist.
Now, without proof we could expect that for , and the same
and
, we could expect that in fact
exists, and
.
The problem here is that for , functions that disagree on a set of measure zero are identified and in general
does not make sense for
.
The best we can do is measure up to tolerance
. Say we measure
with a state
. Then we get conditioning of
to a state:
In the commutative case, this is giving the average of on the interval
.
I had hoped to use to explain why classical spheres don’t admit quantum symmetry. Alas the above means my argument probably cannot work (well, maybe I can use the
of room?)
Perhaps we could try and understand in which -algebras the state
is well-defined… but we can say at least for today that we cannot measure continuous observables with infinite precision… even mathematically.

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