Classical Warm-up
Let be the classical permutation group on
symbols. The algebra of continuous functions
on
is generated by indicator functions:
.
This algebra is commutative, but we will use some non-commutative algebraic analogues. Let be the uniform probability distribution on
and by
the associated state on
:
When choosing a permutation at random what is the probability that it sends ? Well, this will equal, in some notation we won’t fully explain here:
.
Once this has been observed, there is a conditioning of the state :
.
The state was given by but is now given by
. Now, after having observed this random permutation mapping
, we can ask it another question.
Consider a subset and define:
.
This is an observable, which basically asks of a permutation, do you map three into ? One for yes, zero for no. So let us ask this of
:
What is the probability that a random permutation maps three into
after having been observed mapping one to one?
We find, with a fairly elementary calculation that the answer to this question is:
.
If , we get further conditioning, to let us say
:
What is the probability that after seeing after
we see
? We find it is:
.
Therefore, where means after, and the state-conditioning implicit
Now let us ask a ridiculous question. What was the probability that ? But
is just a conditioning of
, which mapped one to one with probability one:
.
Of course the answer is zero. Can we actually see it in the above framework: well, yes, because the algebra of functions is commutative. You end up with evaluating a state at
,
but commutativity sees … and no permutation maps one to one and one to two (you’d need a relation to do that), and so
, so is the length five monomial above, and so is the probability we spoke about.
We don’t have to do state conditioning and multiplication to calculate the probability that a random permutation maps one to one, then maps three into , then maps two to two though. Where
:
.
Let us remark that this probability is increasing in : the less we specify about the event, in this case represented by the projection
, the more general it is, the larger the probability.
Let’s Go Quantum
In the case of quantum permutations, so talking the ridiculous question of asking what is the probability that a quantum permutation maps one to two after it had previously mapped one to one… is no longer zero. Where
, the probability of the analogue of a “random” quantum permutation, the Haar state
doing this is:
Anyway, the quantum versions of the are entries
of a universal magic unitary. We say:
,
where . We find this probability is:
.
This is also increasing in . Again, the less specificity about the event, the greater the probability.
This quantity is related to the classical probability above, and there are asymptotic similarities. Writing , where
is the complement of
in
:
I guess this also says, the larger , the more similar the classical and quantum probabilities.
A twist
What if instead of looking at after
after
but instead we asked about
? This should be non-zero, but what is the dependence on
?
From our classical intuition, we would probably just expect, well, the same really. The larger the value of , the less we are saying about the event. The larger the probability. But in fact this is not the case. The probability is largest when
is close to
. We will write down the probability, and then explain, mathematically, why the symmetry with respect to
, with respect to
:
.
Proof: Consider . Insert between them
:
.
Like in the classical case, by definition here, . So split into two sums:
.
Now, classically, this is just a sum of zero terms equal to zero, but not in the quantum world where we have these . They are not positive though. We can now split:
.
Now take the of both sides to show that:
This yields the strange probability above. I think any intuition I have for this would be very much post-hoc. I think I will just let it hang there as something weird, cool and mysterious about quantum permutations…

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