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Homework
The closing date is 11 April at 2 pm. Work handed up late will be assigned a mark of zero. Note what the homework says”
Answer the following using geometric arguments.
Week 12
We finished on Monday by talking a little bit more about taking roots of complex numbers.
Week 13 Review Week (21-25 April)
I will book a two hour slot and we will first go through the layout of the paper and then I will answer any questions that ye might have.
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April 19, 2014 at 12:15 pm
Student
Hi J.P.,
If you get a chance can you quickly run through the Summer 2012 paper Q. 4 parts e and f please. It is about eventually periodic points.
Thanks!
April 19, 2014 at 12:28 pm
J.P. McCarthy
We looked at these in a tutorial.
For (e) look at the first few iterates of
:
Inductively, we see that
which is a fixed point of
; i.e.
is eventually fixed because some iterate of it is fixed.
For (f), we disagree with the statement. Note that
is on the unit circle, and
maps from the unit circle to the unit circle, so that the only way that
could be eventually fixed is if some iterate is mapped to
— the only fixed point of
on the unit circle,
Suppose for the sake of contradiction that
. Now the argument of
is
, or indeed any negative of these… the argument is any multiple of
so that we can write
, for
.
Now we are assuming
for some
. That is
for some
. That is
which contradicts the fact that
is not a fraction. Hence there is no
such that
, that is
is NOT eventually fixed.
Regards,
J.P.
PS: I clarified earlier in the term that a question like part (f) will NOT be on your paper.
April 29, 2014 at 3:53 pm
David culhane
Hi JP, just wondering where the -1 comes from at the end of the last line.
thanks
April 19, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Student
Hi J.P.,
Having a bit of a mental block on Q. 56. found one fixed point
but more by instinct than understanding. You’re probably on hols now but if you could cover it briefly in the review session i’d appreciate it.
Regards.
April 19, 2014 at 12:49 pm
J.P. McCarthy
We want to find a point
that is sent to itself by
so we are looking for a
such that
The best we can say about this is that it is a quadratic in
and because the complex numbers are a ‘field’ the
formula still applies (although we have a little bit of work to do to interpret ‘
‘). Note that we do NOT have the conjugate root theorem (aka
is not necessarily a fixed point because the coefficients are not real). Let us set it up
Now we need to find ‘
‘ — or moreover the roots of
. We can do this in our head following the homework. The magnitude of
is
so our root will have a magnitude of
. The argument of
is
so the principal square root as a magnitude of half of this
which is basically
in the second quadrant where cosine is negative and sine is positive so we have
Now if
then we also have
so that
is the other square root (and of course there are only two).
So we have
Now to test their nature — attracting, repelling or indifferent — we look at
. We have
so we calculate
Regards,
J.P.
April 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Student
Hi J.P.,
Can you start me off for answering Q. 41 in the exercises? Do I plot the graphs for different values of
?
Thanks!
April 19, 2014 at 1:02 pm
J.P. McCarthy
Unfortunately that would NOT be sufficient.
can take on the continuum of values between
so plotting a finite number of those graphs is not enough.
For part (a) you would calculate, for a general
and
(why only
?),
and
. If they are equal then you are done.
,
and
and show that they are equal.
Similarly calculate, for a general
For part (b), show that
is increasing for
. We did this last year… how do you show that a function is increasing/decreasing. Do the same for
and you are done.
Regards,
J.P.
April 22, 2014 at 2:24 pm
Student
Hi J.P.,
I was wondering have you a solution for Autumn 2012 Q. 2… or even a rough guideline, just so i know if I am on the right track.
Thanks.
April 22, 2014 at 2:27 pm
J.P. McCarthy
Hi,
From what you sent on, your Q.2 (a) (ii) is fine but for part (i) you need something like this:
“Suppose that
so that
. Then the population
grows according to
, but
so that
so we have
, i.e. approximately geometric”.
Regards,
J.P.
April 26, 2014 at 10:28 am
Student
Hi J.P.,
I’m getting stuck with the August 2013 paper Q.1 part c. It is Q. 32 in the exercises. You did answer this in the tutorial, however you dropped the half and now I am not sure how to continue. I evaluated
and got
or
. By taking the
of both sides I got
.
Is this the correct what to answer the question?
Thanks.
April 26, 2014 at 10:49 am
J.P. McCarthy
Two issues before we start.
You don’t evaluate an equation such as
you solve it. Secondly please don’t use decimal rounding in a maths exam unless you want an approximate solution. The solution of
, by taking the log of both sides, is
. Now
but not equal to it so leave it as
.
I suspect we dealt with the half rather than just dropped it. O.K. we have
and we want to find the fixed points so we solve
:
Now to classify these we look at
. Now
is the product of
and
so we apply the product rule:
Regards,
J.P.
April 29, 2014 at 12:32 pm
Student
J.P.,
I need some help with Q. 62.
Regards.
April 29, 2014 at 12:37 pm
J.P. McCarthy
This answer refers to Q.62 of the exercises.
From what you sent me Q.1 (a) is pretty good but explicitly show that if
has argument
then
has argument
, i.e. by annotating the graph.
Q.1 (b) is pretty sweet and (c) is fine.
Q. 1 (d)… your picture is incorrect. First of all
is a fixed point and that is found at the origin. Now
is looking for the third roots of unity. The first is
and the rest are found by chopping the unit circle up into three, i.e.
. So we have one at
, another at
and another at
.
Q. 1 (e) is pretty good but maybe write that
so we have
, which is fixed. Also you actually have
and in fact it is
.
Regarding Q. 1 (f), please see https://jpmccarthymaths.com/2014/03/27/ms3011-week-12-2/#comment-1525
Regards,
April 29, 2014 at 7:37 pm
Student
Dear J.P.,
Is it possible to get the solution please to Q. 43 in the exercise set, particularly part (d)? It concerns the logistical mapping.
Kind regards.
April 29, 2014 at 7:43 pm
J.P. McCarthy
Don’t worry about part (d), I won’t ask that in your exam (although I address it here https://jpmccarthymaths.com/2013/03/27/ms3011-week-12/#comment-666).
The rest is bookwork, covered in the notes.
Q. 43 (a) is covered in great detail on P. 3 of the pdf notes. However a more compact answer would be as follows.
“Let
be the the proportion of a maximum population. Suppose that we want for small populations
that the growth rate is approximately geometric.
Also we want extinction to ensue whenever the maximum population is reached; i.e.
. The model
achieves this.
For
as required.
Also when
, we have
so that,
, as required.”
Q. 43 (b) and (c) are covered on the bottom of p.26/ top of p.27.
Regards,
J.P.
April 30, 2014 at 8:06 am
Student
Hi J.P.,
Sorry for the last minute question, I just want to clear something up. If
is a fixed point (i.e. period one), and
is a prime period two point. Is
also prime period two or just period two.
This question is coming from the 2013 paper Q.1 (a) (iii). The prime period two points are complex whereas the fixed points are much easier to use. Can I use a fixed point to represent a prime period two point because I feel like I can’t.
Regards.
April 30, 2014 at 8:23 am
J.P. McCarthy
Firstly if
is a fixed point, then
is also period-two, three, four, five, etc (if a point is period-
then it is also period-
for any
.).
Secondly, if
is prime-period-two, this means that
is period-two and this is the lowest period; i.e.
is prime-period-two means that it is period-two but not period-one. Similarly a point is prime-period-three if it is period-three but not period-two or period-one.
Therefore
, while it is period-two, is not prime-period-two because it is also period-one: it is prime-period-one. This means that you can’t use the fixed points because they are not prime-period-two.
In fact the result does not hold when
is a fixed point. For suppose that
is fixed, that is period-one. Therefore
is period-
for any
. In particular,
is period-eight, however it is also period-nine.
Here are three perfectly good solutions to the problem.
1. Once you find the (complex) prime-period-two points, let one of them be
. Now because
is period-two it is also period-eight. Suppose for the sake of contradiction that
is also period-nine. That is
but
so we this implies
i.e.
is a fixed, period-one point. But this contradicts the fact that
is prime-period-two so we cannot have that
is period-nine.
2. A slicker proof uses the fact that a point is period-
if and only if
is a multiple of the prime period. Now eight is a multiple of the prime-period, two, but nine is not. Therefore
is period-eight, but not period-nine.
3. Another proof goes as follows. Denote one of the prime-period-two points by
and the other by
. We have that all of the points in a periodic orbit of period-
are also period-
so if w consider the orbit of
:
then
must be period-two. Clearly
cannot be a fixed point therefore it must be prime-period-two and the only other prime-period-two point is
so we have
.
Therefore the orbit of
is:
so clearly
is period-eight but not period-nine.
Regards,
J.P.
August 8, 2014 at 3:23 pm
Student
Just want to clear up a few things with you that I’m bothered about before the test on Monday.
1. How do I go about finding an eventually periodic point of a function which is not periodic?
These come up on part (c) and part (d) of Q.24 and Q.25 respectively.
2. Would it be possible for you to give me the solutions for autumn 2013 Q.3 part (d) and (e)?
I’m having trouble understanding the whole concept of density in relation to this topic.
3. Finally just a small thing in relation to complex numbers. When plotting points on an Argand diagram, for Q. 4 (a) of the summer paper what quadrants are
and
in and how does this change when our expression changes to
?
And for part (d) I’m left with four points. How do I plot these? Just a bit confused
Any help at all on the above would be greatly appreciated.
August 8, 2014 at 3:38 pm
J.P. McCarthy
1. In MS3011, given a function
, it is points
that we call periodic rather than the function. We call
a period-
-point if
For example fixed points
are period-one points for they satisfy
A point
is an eventually periodic point if some iterate of
is a periodic point. For example, if two has the following orbit under some
:
then we say that two is eventually periodic. Note that two itself is NOT periodic.
If you are to get a question like in Q.24 or Q.25 you will be asked to find an eventually fixed point that is not fixed. What you need to do in this case is find all of the fixed points of
by solving
. Then take one fixed point, say
, and find all of the points that are sent to
by solving
As it is fixed,
itself is eventually fixed — but it is fixed also and we want to find an eventually fixed point that is NOT fixed.
Hence you will hope to solve this equation and find that one of the solutions is not fixed and this will be your answer.
2. This is bookwork from the lectures and is in the notes too.
3. It depends. If you put your complex number
at around 20
on the unit circle then
will have angle 40
and
will have angle 60
so all these points are in the first quadrant. Obviously the situation will be different if you place
around 80
.
To plot the points… look up how to plot roots of unity.
Regards,
J.P.